Posted by Liz @ 9:51 pm on January 27th 2010

State of the Union

An attempt at a liveblog.†† Or a drinking game.† Or a combination thereof.† Have at it.

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  1. Same ol’ same ol’ on health care. I suppose that one could make the case that the Republican proposals were never really seriously considered to start with, but that is the price of marginalizing your own party to the point of having forty seats in the Senate.

    Comment by Rojas — 1/27/2010 @ 11:35 pm

  2. Wait, did he even read the SOTU? Obama already talked about drilling and nuclear power.

    Comment by Liz — 1/27/2010 @ 11:36 pm

  3. This speech in a sentence: “We’re still here!” At least he isn’t outright frightening, as Jindal was.

    Comment by Rojas — 1/27/2010 @ 11:36 pm

  4. Rojas 147: Like Obama’s show wasn’t?

    Comment by James — 1/27/2010 @ 11:37 pm

  5. Yay for your daughter, wouldn’t it be nice if she weren’t risking her life for nothing?

    Comment by Eric — 1/27/2010 @ 11:37 pm

  6. This is really coming across as a speech prepared in the complete absence of Obama’s text. Liz is right that he’s duplicating some of the rhetoric on energy (though taking a swipe at cap and trade in the process) and the Afghanistan point is a near replica of Obama’s. His point that we shouldn’t “protect” suspected terrorists means…what? That they aren’t entitled to legal representation?

    Comment by Rojas — 1/27/2010 @ 11:38 pm

  7. James 154: well, no. Whatever else may be said of Obama, he’s quite good at coming across as simultaneously polished and conversational. I’d never call him “stiff”.

    Comment by Rojas — 1/27/2010 @ 11:40 pm

  8. Appeal to scripture? I want to vomit.

    Comment by Eric — 1/27/2010 @ 11:40 pm

  9. “This foreign terror suspect was given the same legal rights a US citizen and immediately stopped providing critical intelligence.”

    Fuck you.

    Comment by Cameron — 1/27/2010 @ 11:40 pm

  10. One gets the overall impression of the JV taking the floor after the varsity game. It’s not BAD, exactly, it’s just…meh.

    Comment by Rojas — 1/27/2010 @ 11:41 pm

  11. What did I miss? Just got back from the opera. Yeah, that’s right, the opera. Wanna fight about it?

    Comment by Jack — 1/27/2010 @ 11:41 pm

  12. No – I have season tickets to the opera – what’d you see?

    Comment by Liz — 1/27/2010 @ 11:42 pm

  13. So I guess the GOP strategy is to stand pat, avoid risks, and hope to be elected by default. One never expects much from the opposition response to the SOTU; yet one often ends up disappointed anyway.

    Comment by Rojas — 1/27/2010 @ 11:42 pm

  14. But as for tonight – Obama was really aggressive. He’s going to work for DADT repeal and nuclear power and focus on jobs and really a lot of stuff. Rojas liked his beer better then the address. Bob McDonnell gave a response that had nothing to do with the SOTU.

    Comment by Liz — 1/27/2010 @ 11:44 pm

  15. Rojas 156:

    That they (terrorists) arenít entitled to legal representation?

    In my opinion, that depends on whether they are working as an individual or as an agent of a foreign group at war with the United States.

    Comment by James — 1/27/2010 @ 11:45 pm

  16. Liz,
    Lucia di Lammermoor. Not Florida Grand Opera’s best effort.

    Comment by Jack — 1/27/2010 @ 11:46 pm

  17. Rojas 157: You are correct on that count. Obama is smoother than a used Clinton cigar.

    Comment by James — 1/27/2010 @ 11:48 pm

  18. Jack, haven’t seen that one.

    Comment by Liz — 1/27/2010 @ 11:52 pm

  19. Man, it would be cool if this blog allowed comment edit like the ones that came out ten years ago. Boy, that would be nifty.

    EDIT: It does.

    Comment by James — 1/27/2010 @ 11:52 pm

  20. 169: Think twice, hit post once.

    Comment by Eric — 1/27/2010 @ 11:54 pm

  21. You will get old too, Eric. When you do you will note that you make typos and get shorter. And not necessarily in that order.

    Comment by James — 1/27/2010 @ 11:57 pm

  22. Well you didnt miss much IMHO. Encompasses all that I dislike in Opera: Preposterous plot without the ability to suspend disbelief, all action taking place in exposition, agonizingly long displays or repetitive emotion, and awkward stage craft of the lead. Can’t compare to the last thing I saw, Pagliacci. Was superior in every way. Course, it could all be the individual production. But Pagliacci should not be missed.

    Comment by Jack — 1/27/2010 @ 11:58 pm

  23. 171: The libertarian ideal suggests you find a new blog, as this one fails to meet your needs.

    Comment by Eric — 1/28/2010 @ 12:01 am

  24. Who is this Eric person, and where has he been? The Crossed Pond atheist minority grows with each passing hour, soon we will rule all, all I tell you!

    Comment by Jack — 1/28/2010 @ 12:03 am

  25. In short, I think Obama gave a pretty damned good speech; but that is what he is good at. His governance has to have both George W. Bush and Jimmy Carter observing him wistfully as the possible savior of their sad legacies.

    Comment by James — 1/28/2010 @ 12:05 am

  26. In short, I think James contributed some substance-less comments at end, after the party was over. His references to past failures a sad pretense at not being biased.

    Comment by Eric — 1/28/2010 @ 12:09 am

  27. Jack 174: Eric may be short on patience for his fellow humans, but that shortfall does not extend to his intellect.

    Comment by James — 1/28/2010 @ 12:09 am

  28. Wows, the last three comments made the trip worth it.

    Comment by Jack — 1/28/2010 @ 12:11 am

  29. Eric 176: Sorry I was late, I’m a busy guy. As for bias? Guilty as charged. I am cursed with my own opinion. Forgive me.

    Comment by James — 1/28/2010 @ 12:12 am

  30. We’re all cursed with an opinion, even those of those that just borrow.

    Comment by Eric — 1/28/2010 @ 12:19 am

  31. Indeed.

    Comment by James — 1/28/2010 @ 12:26 am

  32. Boo losing my internet connection. :(

    Comment by Brad — 1/28/2010 @ 10:28 am

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