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	<title>Comments on: The McCain-Palin Schism</title>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/10/25/the-mccain-palin-schism/comment-page-1/#comment-17923</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Unless you’re Fox.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For Palin, yeah. They&#039;re ideological hacks. Even MSNBC, which has hired and/or elevated some ideological hacks (Maddow, Olberman) isn&#039;t near Fox (yet, maybe).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Unless you’re Fox.</p></blockquote>
<p>For Palin, yeah. They&#8217;re ideological hacks. Even MSNBC, which has hired and/or elevated some ideological hacks (Maddow, Olberman) isn&#8217;t near Fox (yet, maybe).</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/10/25/the-mccain-palin-schism/comment-page-1/#comment-17922</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless you&#039;re Fox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless you&#8217;re Fox.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/10/25/the-mccain-palin-schism/comment-page-1/#comment-17919</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally don&#039;t think that a &#039;getting to know you&#039; interview would be as good for the interviewer or the channel as an interview with flubs in it. I mean, I just can&#039;t really see it, so there&#039;d be a strong motivation -- for a journalist that likes to get a bigger audience and grab some attention -- to get at least a few notable screw-ups from the candidate being interviewed, if it were likely to be possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally don&#8217;t think that a &#8216;getting to know you&#8217; interview would be as good for the interviewer or the channel as an interview with flubs in it. I mean, I just can&#8217;t really see it, so there&#8217;d be a strong motivation &#8212; for a journalist that likes to get a bigger audience and grab some attention &#8212; to get at least a few notable screw-ups from the candidate being interviewed, if it were likely to be possible.</p>
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		<title>By: tessellated</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/10/25/the-mccain-palin-schism/comment-page-1/#comment-17918</link>
		<dc:creator>tessellated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I realize you have come back more than once to clarify that&#039;s not what you meant. That&#039;s why I said most people and not specifically you. Clearly that is how Palin and McCain feel what with all there talk of media elites and their cocktail parties. &quot;Gotcha&quot; journalism itself has recently become yet another buzzword in that constellation of cliches surrounding this campaign and it is in no small part thanks to Palin. She routinely rails on about the media filter blah blah in her stump speeches and elsewhere.

I&#039;ll just reiterate here, that I don&#039;t even think most of the Couric questions were asked specifically to trip her up. This is very subjective so reasonable people can disagree but it seems to me most of them were of the &quot;getting to know you and your positions variety&quot; and were quite predictable at that. How can a question be a verbal trap when you *expect* it? Most of Palin&#039;s stumbles came during the follow up question. I suppose you could argue that Couric was trapping her in that sense: by not letting Palin get away with obviously rehearsed talking points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I realize you have come back more than once to clarify that&#8217;s not what you meant. That&#8217;s why I said most people and not specifically you. Clearly that is how Palin and McCain feel what with all there talk of media elites and their cocktail parties. &#8220;Gotcha&#8221; journalism itself has recently become yet another buzzword in that constellation of cliches surrounding this campaign and it is in no small part thanks to Palin. She routinely rails on about the media filter blah blah in her stump speeches and elsewhere.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just reiterate here, that I don&#8217;t even think most of the Couric questions were asked specifically to trip her up. This is very subjective so reasonable people can disagree but it seems to me most of them were of the &#8220;getting to know you and your positions variety&#8221; and were quite predictable at that. How can a question be a verbal trap when you *expect* it? Most of Palin&#8217;s stumbles came during the follow up question. I suppose you could argue that Couric was trapping her in that sense: by not letting Palin get away with obviously rehearsed talking points.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;and it’s the connotation here that bothers me, most people think gotcha questions are unfair or slanted, purposefully designed to trip up a candidate to garner ratings just as you have alluded&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It doesn&#039;t mean unfair at all (as I have said at least once, I am not crying &#039;foul&#039;), so far as I am concerned. It means &#039;there to trip you up&#039;, as I use it, and if I were a political journalist and I thought I could get a moment like that, I&#039;d use it, personally (if I were interviewing Biden, I&#039;d try to bait him into saying something impolitic; with Obama or McCain, I&#039;d put much less effort into it as they are somewhat less likely, even though they have both stumbled on occasion, to say something daft). Also, of course, I am not suggesting that it was just a barrage of those questions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>and it’s the connotation here that bothers me, most people think gotcha questions are unfair or slanted, purposefully designed to trip up a candidate to garner ratings just as you have alluded</p></blockquote>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t mean unfair at all (as I have said at least once, I am not crying &#8216;foul&#8217;), so far as I am concerned. It means &#8216;there to trip you up&#8217;, as I use it, and if I were a political journalist and I thought I could get a moment like that, I&#8217;d use it, personally (if I were interviewing Biden, I&#8217;d try to bait him into saying something impolitic; with Obama or McCain, I&#8217;d put much less effort into it as they are somewhat less likely, even though they have both stumbled on occasion, to say something daft). Also, of course, I am not suggesting that it was just a barrage of those questions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tessellated</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/10/25/the-mccain-palin-schism/comment-page-1/#comment-17914</link>
		<dc:creator>tessellated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, that&#039;s twice lately you&#039;ve caught me by surprise, James.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, that&#8217;s twice lately you&#8217;ve caught me by surprise, James.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Seriously, how do you fuck up “what do you read?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Seriously, how do you fuck up “what do you read?”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: tessellated</title>
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		<dc:creator>tessellated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to contest your view of the McCain campaign&#039;s handling of Palin. She&#039;s a walking disaster, but surely there are better ways and worse ways of dealing with that.

If the media retroactively treated her answers to those questions as though they were &quot;gotcha&quot; moments -- and it&#039;s the connotation here that bothers me, most people think gotcha questions are unfair or slanted, purposefully designed to trip up a candidate to garner ratings just as you have alluded -- it&#039;s because SHE turned them into a &quot;gotcha&quot; moment. Seriously, how do you fuck up &quot;what do you read?&quot; Her Couric interview was entirely self-inflicted. She couldn&#039;t coherently string sentences together and that&#039;s NOT an exaggeration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to contest your view of the McCain campaign&#8217;s handling of Palin. She&#8217;s a walking disaster, but surely there are better ways and worse ways of dealing with that.</p>
<p>If the media retroactively treated her answers to those questions as though they were &#8220;gotcha&#8221; moments &#8212; and it&#8217;s the connotation here that bothers me, most people think gotcha questions are unfair or slanted, purposefully designed to trip up a candidate to garner ratings just as you have alluded &#8212; it&#8217;s because SHE turned them into a &#8220;gotcha&#8221; moment. Seriously, how do you fuck up &#8220;what do you read?&#8221; Her Couric interview was entirely self-inflicted. She couldn&#8217;t coherently string sentences together and that&#8217;s NOT an exaggeration.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/10/25/the-mccain-palin-schism/comment-page-1/#comment-17909</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that Palin, because of the perception that she doesn&#039;t know enough stuff, gets more questions trying to find out if she knows stuff (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/11/05/bush.popquiz/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;as did Bush&lt;/a&gt; in 1999). The Gibson &#039;Bush Doctrine&#039; question was either designed to be a tripper-up or was bizarrely put-together (given that Gibson himself appeared not to be certain exactly what the &#039;Bush Doctrine&#039; was, which he couldn&#039;t be because it means a bunch of stuff) and Palin&#039;s reaction (&#039;crap, am I supposed to know this?&#039; rather than &#039;What the Hell does Gibson mean by that?&#039;) was great for Gibson in terms of the coverage.

I&#039;m not complaining about it -- it&#039;s all fair game -- but observing that McCain&#039;s team made a strategic mistake in their handling of her. With so few early interviews, and such a delay before they were even given at all, the effect of flubs was much magnified; even if you think that the interviews weren&#039;t intended to provide more of those moments than a normal interview, much of the rest of the media used them that way. Again, I&#039;m not crying foul -- all elements of the media know their market, and that&#039;s trending Democrat-wards since before 2006 and Obama-wards this year and I don&#039;t begrudge them their chance to earn a living -- just observing how I see it. I think that the McCain campaign would have been far better advised to get her doing more interviews early on (note that now she&#039;s doing more press stuff and doing much better overall, with mistakes being diluted by the other stuff).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that Palin, because of the perception that she doesn&#8217;t know enough stuff, gets more questions trying to find out if she knows stuff (<a href="http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/11/05/bush.popquiz/" rel="nofollow">as did Bush</a> in 1999). The Gibson &#8216;Bush Doctrine&#8217; question was either designed to be a tripper-up or was bizarrely put-together (given that Gibson himself appeared not to be certain exactly what the &#8216;Bush Doctrine&#8217; was, which he couldn&#8217;t be because it means a bunch of stuff) and Palin&#8217;s reaction (&#8217;crap, am I supposed to know this?&#8217; rather than &#8216;What the Hell does Gibson mean by that?&#8217;) was great for Gibson in terms of the coverage.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not complaining about it &#8212; it&#8217;s all fair game &#8212; but observing that McCain&#8217;s team made a strategic mistake in their handling of her. With so few early interviews, and such a delay before they were even given at all, the effect of flubs was much magnified; even if you think that the interviews weren&#8217;t intended to provide more of those moments than a normal interview, much of the rest of the media used them that way. Again, I&#8217;m not crying foul &#8212; all elements of the media know their market, and that&#8217;s trending Democrat-wards since before 2006 and Obama-wards this year and I don&#8217;t begrudge them their chance to earn a living &#8212; just observing how I see it. I think that the McCain campaign would have been far better advised to get her doing more interviews early on (note that now she&#8217;s doing more press stuff and doing much better overall, with mistakes being diluted by the other stuff).</p>
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		<title>By: tessellated</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/10/25/the-mccain-palin-schism/comment-page-1/#comment-17907</link>
		<dc:creator>tessellated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, again, I didn&#039;t see the Gibson interview but the questions asked by Couric were fairly softball questions (e.g. &quot;What do you read?&quot; -- c&#039;mon it doesn&#039;t get much easier than that!) or very predictable (e.g. Russian border question where she was given the opportunity to clarify an earlier gaffe). Couric didn&#039;t spring anything on her that a candidate seeking the office of VP shouldn&#039;t handle. If asking the expected is gotcha, then what the hell *isn&#039;t*? Her ignorance was exposed mostly by the follow up questions when she was forced to actually respond to the original question or risk parroting her talking points like a mindless idiot. She chose the latter strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, again, I didn&#8217;t see the Gibson interview but the questions asked by Couric were fairly softball questions (e.g. &#8220;What do you read?&#8221; &#8212; c&#8217;mon it doesn&#8217;t get much easier than that!) or very predictable (e.g. Russian border question where she was given the opportunity to clarify an earlier gaffe). Couric didn&#8217;t spring anything on her that a candidate seeking the office of VP shouldn&#8217;t handle. If asking the expected is gotcha, then what the hell *isn&#8217;t*? Her ignorance was exposed mostly by the follow up questions when she was forced to actually respond to the original question or risk parroting her talking points like a mindless idiot. She chose the latter strategy.</p>
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