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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/08/24/mccain-surprise/comment-page-1/#comment-13508</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If McCain could get Powell, he&#039;d take him in a heartbeat (and I think that Obama would have done the same). However, if Powell didn&#039;t bite in the past I don&#039;t think that he&#039;d bite now, even if he did prefer McCain to Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If McCain could get Powell, he&#8217;d take him in a heartbeat (and I think that Obama would have done the same). However, if Powell didn&#8217;t bite in the past I don&#8217;t think that he&#8217;d bite now, even if he did prefer McCain to Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/08/24/mccain-surprise/comment-page-1/#comment-13505</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually had a thought much like this a few days ago.  It would be an interesting coup/card for McCain to play and would certainly interfere with any post convention boost for Obama.  However, I don&#039;t particularly see it happening.  It would be great fun politically if it did develop.

I&#039;m still quite frankly blown away by McCain&#039;s polling at this point.  It&#039;s stunning to see the national polls where a generic Democrat beats a generic Republican by enormous margins and yet McCain is seemingly neck in neck with Obama. He shouldn&#039;t be nearly this competitive.  If I were a Democrat I&#039;d be very close to pissing my pants.  

This just isn&#039;t what should be happening this year.  I still think Obama is on a fairly safe track for the presidency, but goodness he&#039;s facing an unexciting old guy running a fairly dilapidated campaign and Obama can&#039;t break levels even approaching a generic Democrat.  This should have the left very worried.

Once again, the Republican&#039;s should be thanking their lucky stars they picked McCain.  I can only imagine the trouncing any of the other candidates would be facing in the polls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually had a thought much like this a few days ago.  It would be an interesting coup/card for McCain to play and would certainly interfere with any post convention boost for Obama.  However, I don&#8217;t particularly see it happening.  It would be great fun politically if it did develop.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still quite frankly blown away by McCain&#8217;s polling at this point.  It&#8217;s stunning to see the national polls where a generic Democrat beats a generic Republican by enormous margins and yet McCain is seemingly neck in neck with Obama. He shouldn&#8217;t be nearly this competitive.  If I were a Democrat I&#8217;d be very close to pissing my pants.  </p>
<p>This just isn&#8217;t what should be happening this year.  I still think Obama is on a fairly safe track for the presidency, but goodness he&#8217;s facing an unexciting old guy running a fairly dilapidated campaign and Obama can&#8217;t break levels even approaching a generic Democrat.  This should have the left very worried.</p>
<p>Once again, the Republican&#8217;s should be thanking their lucky stars they picked McCain.  I can only imagine the trouncing any of the other candidates would be facing in the polls.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, that&#039;s from Powell&#039;s own lips.  From 1999 I think.  

I also think Powell might appreciate Obama a bit more than James might give him credit for.  And I don&#039;t mean just because he&#039;s black.

Powell put in his time.  And I don&#039;t get the impression that, from that experience, he has any more of a hankering to jump back in than he ever did.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that&#8217;s from Powell&#8217;s own lips.  From 1999 I think.  </p>
<p>I also think Powell might appreciate Obama a bit more than James might give him credit for.  And I don&#8217;t mean just because he&#8217;s black.</p>
<p>Powell put in his time.  And I don&#8217;t get the impression that, from that experience, he has any more of a hankering to jump back in than he ever did.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/08/24/mccain-surprise/comment-page-1/#comment-13499</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Powell promised his wife years ago that he wouldn&#039;t run for office.  She was very nervous about what a campaign would do to their family and about assasination attempts on a black candidate.

Not sure if that&#039;s the ever-churning rumor mill or something more substantial, but that story has been around for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Powell promised his wife years ago that he wouldn&#8217;t run for office.  She was very nervous about what a campaign would do to their family and about assasination attempts on a black candidate.</p>
<p>Not sure if that&#8217;s the ever-churning rumor mill or something more substantial, but that story has been around for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Powell is a factor in this race in pretty much any capacity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Powell is a factor in this race in pretty much any capacity.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/08/24/mccain-surprise/comment-page-1/#comment-13493</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I do find it funny that you’re assuming Powell would go McCain.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I made no such assumption, Brad.  I merely postulated that Powell would be McCain&#039;s best VP hope at this point.

I realize it is an unlikely scenario, but so is Powell offering Obama his endorsement, especially in a convention speech.  I don;t think that is who Powell is.

As for Powell being friends with Biden, Biden is friends with McCain who is no doubt a mutual friend of both.  The only new guy at the lunch table here is Barack Obama.  He came with a big spork, and old friends respect a big spork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I do find it funny that you’re assuming Powell would go McCain.</p></blockquote>
<p>I made no such assumption, Brad.  I merely postulated that Powell would be McCain&#8217;s best VP hope at this point.</p>
<p>I realize it is an unlikely scenario, but so is Powell offering Obama his endorsement, especially in a convention speech.  I don;t think that is who Powell is.</p>
<p>As for Powell being friends with Biden, Biden is friends with McCain who is no doubt a mutual friend of both.  The only new guy at the lunch table here is Barack Obama.  He came with a big spork, and old friends respect a big spork.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All that said, what is interesting to think about is if Powell would indeed live up to his reputation as being the World&#039;s Most Popular Figure in Politics.  He would undoubtedly be a big boost to McCain, but I&#039;m not convinced that part of his draw isn&#039;t precisely his mystique, borne almost entirely of his staying &lt;i&gt;out&lt;/i&gt; of politics.  I&#039;m also not convinced that Powell would be unassailable.  His tenure as Secretary of State, though noble in its way, was not exactly distinguished, and given that he&#039;s got literally nothing else to qualify him, you better believe that would be the central issue.  The only way Powell would get out of that without reinforcing the Bush&#039;s third term theme would be to very publicly and clearly throw Bush under the bus.  While Bush is still President.  That is both risky given the rest of McCain&#039;s themes (and given likely GOP base doubts about pro-choice, socially liberal Powell), and seems to go against the grain of everything we know about Powell and his sense of character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that said, what is interesting to think about is if Powell would indeed live up to his reputation as being the World&#8217;s Most Popular Figure in Politics.  He would undoubtedly be a big boost to McCain, but I&#8217;m not convinced that part of his draw isn&#8217;t precisely his mystique, borne almost entirely of his staying <i>out</i> of politics.  I&#8217;m also not convinced that Powell would be unassailable.  His tenure as Secretary of State, though noble in its way, was not exactly distinguished, and given that he&#8217;s got literally nothing else to qualify him, you better believe that would be the central issue.  The only way Powell would get out of that without reinforcing the Bush&#8217;s third term theme would be to very publicly and clearly throw Bush under the bus.  While Bush is still President.  That is both risky given the rest of McCain&#8217;s themes (and given likely GOP base doubts about pro-choice, socially liberal Powell), and seems to go against the grain of everything we know about Powell and his sense of character.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t think that Powell hasn&#039;t been hounded by every primary candidate for President in the Republican party (and a good chunk of the Democratic ones) since roughly 1996.  The specific dynamics are almost irrelevant.  If McCain could ever, ever, ever get Powell, he would, in a heartbeat.  He would have in June 2007, he would have in January 2008, he would have in March, he would now, hell he would probably &lt;i&gt;drop&lt;/i&gt; his running mate in October of Powell expressed a hint of interest.

But, the truth is, he hasn&#039;t.  And, by every indication, won&#039;t.  I can&#039;t say never, because who knows, but I view it as at least as likely that Powell endorses Obama at the DNC and gives a convention speech there (remember, that is what &lt;a href=&quot;http://thecrossedpond.com/?p=4243&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bill Kristol reported is going to happen, two weeks ago&lt;/a&gt;) as him being McCain&#039;s running mate.  

The truth is we don&#039;t even know if Powell is going to &lt;i&gt;vote&lt;/i&gt; for McCain, much less endorse him.  The scant evidence could go in literally any direction.  We do know he&#039;s good friends with Joe Biden, by the way---I even read a few Dailykos diaries with titles like &quot;DNC Surprise?&quot; suggesting Powell might introduce him at the convention. 

I find it hard to believe that, given all Powell himself has been through, and given how completely and totally he&#039;s stayed out of electoral politics up until now, that he&#039;d chose this particular cycle, with these particular candidates, to throw himself in the mix for.  In short, James: you can&#039;t say &quot;never&quot;, in regards to most anything.  But it&#039;s about as likely as McCain announcing Michael Phelps.   



I do find it funny that you&#039;re assuming Powell would go McCain.  It was suggested on this blog before that Andrew Sullivan, when mentioning the possibility of Powell endorsing Obama, got roundly decried as a loon who had lost his marbles for being so presumptuous and making such a leap with no evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t think that Powell hasn&#8217;t been hounded by every primary candidate for President in the Republican party (and a good chunk of the Democratic ones) since roughly 1996.  The specific dynamics are almost irrelevant.  If McCain could ever, ever, ever get Powell, he would, in a heartbeat.  He would have in June 2007, he would have in January 2008, he would have in March, he would now, hell he would probably <i>drop</i> his running mate in October of Powell expressed a hint of interest.</p>
<p>But, the truth is, he hasn&#8217;t.  And, by every indication, won&#8217;t.  I can&#8217;t say never, because who knows, but I view it as at least as likely that Powell endorses Obama at the DNC and gives a convention speech there (remember, that is what <a href="http://thecrossedpond.com/?p=4243" rel="nofollow">Bill Kristol reported is going to happen, two weeks ago</a>) as him being McCain&#8217;s running mate.  </p>
<p>The truth is we don&#8217;t even know if Powell is going to <i>vote</i> for McCain, much less endorse him.  The scant evidence could go in literally any direction.  We do know he&#8217;s good friends with Joe Biden, by the way&#8212;I even read a few Dailykos diaries with titles like &#8220;DNC Surprise?&#8221; suggesting Powell might introduce him at the convention. </p>
<p>I find it hard to believe that, given all Powell himself has been through, and given how completely and totally he&#8217;s stayed out of electoral politics up until now, that he&#8217;d chose this particular cycle, with these particular candidates, to throw himself in the mix for.  In short, James: you can&#8217;t say &#8220;never&#8221;, in regards to most anything.  But it&#8217;s about as likely as McCain announcing Michael Phelps.   </p>
<p>I do find it funny that you&#8217;re assuming Powell would go McCain.  It was suggested on this blog before that Andrew Sullivan, when mentioning the possibility of Powell endorsing Obama, got roundly decried as a loon who had lost his marbles for being so presumptuous and making such a leap with no evidence.</p>
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