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	<title>Comments on: Joseph Biden for VP</title>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/07/30/joseph-biden-for-vp/comment-page-1/#comment-12786</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I have said before, I kind of &lt;a href=&quot;http://thecrossedpond.com/?p=2061 rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; like&lt;/a&gt; Biden.  He speaks his &lt;a href=&quot;http://thecrossedpond.com/?p=3578&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mind&lt;/a&gt;.    I think Obama would have to have the audacity of a dope to select him though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have said before, I kind of <a href="http://thecrossedpond.com/?p=2061 rel="nofollow"> like</a> Biden.  He speaks his <a href="http://thecrossedpond.com/?p=3578" rel="nofollow">mind</a>.    I think Obama would have to have the audacity of a dope to select him though.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/07/30/joseph-biden-for-vp/comment-page-1/#comment-12780</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biden, by the way, would do just fine in meeting the political resume threshold.  

At this point, and maybe I should have put this more clearly in my premises, but I think the VP pick needs to be somebody who comforts independents, white males, and moderates.  I think Obama can safely rely on the Democratic base to turn out for him, and thus need not be overly concerned with Hillary supporters, liberal netroots types, blacks or Hispanics, women, etc.  He&#039;s already got all of them more or less in his pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biden, by the way, would do just fine in meeting the political resume threshold.  </p>
<p>At this point, and maybe I should have put this more clearly in my premises, but I think the VP pick needs to be somebody who comforts independents, white males, and moderates.  I think Obama can safely rely on the Democratic base to turn out for him, and thus need not be overly concerned with Hillary supporters, liberal netroots types, blacks or Hispanics, women, etc.  He&#8217;s already got all of them more or less in his pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: KipEsquire</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/07/30/joseph-biden-for-vp/comment-page-1/#comment-12779</link>
		<dc:creator>KipEsquire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile -- 

Step 1: Get Hillary supporters to &lt;a href=&quot;http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/hillary-and-bill-not-that-one-together-again/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;like Richardson&lt;/a&gt;.
Step 2: {Choose Richardson as VP.}
Step 3: Profit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile &#8212; </p>
<p>Step 1: Get Hillary supporters to <a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/hillary-and-bill-not-that-one-together-again/" rel="nofollow">like Richardson</a>.<br />
Step 2: {Choose Richardson as VP.}<br />
Step 3: Profit!</p>
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		<title>By: KipEsquire</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/07/30/joseph-biden-for-vp/comment-page-1/#comment-12778</link>
		<dc:creator>KipEsquire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t the whole point of Obama&#039;s campaign that he already has all the &quot;presence&quot; he needs, but is a bit light on the political resume?

And the McCain campaign would absolutely slaughter Biden: &quot;Obama&#039;s own running mate thought I was best qualified to lead the country...&quot; Etc. Might not matter, but it would certainly happen.

P.S. &quot;Why do you say these things, when you know I will kill you for it?&quot;  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the whole point of Obama&#8217;s campaign that he already has all the &#8220;presence&#8221; he needs, but is a bit light on the political resume?</p>
<p>And the McCain campaign would absolutely slaughter Biden: &#8220;Obama&#8217;s own running mate thought I was best qualified to lead the country&#8230;&#8221; Etc. Might not matter, but it would certainly happen.</p>
<p>P.S. &#8220;Why do you say these things, when you know I will kill you for it?&#8221;  ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/07/30/joseph-biden-for-vp/comment-page-1/#comment-12775</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He looked like General Zod.

I found that endearing.  But if he keeps the beard, he at least has to maliciously sneer more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He looked like General Zod.</p>
<p>I found that endearing.  But if he keeps the beard, he at least has to maliciously sneer more.</p>
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		<title>By: Rojas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rojas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richardson&#039;s disqualifier is the beard.  Gore looked weird with his; Richardson looks downright scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richardson&#8217;s disqualifier is the beard.  Gore looked weird with his; Richardson looks downright scary.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/07/30/joseph-biden-for-vp/comment-page-1/#comment-12766</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biden&#039;s plagiarism problem would resurface, but it&#039;s very hard for me to see anyone caring.  It&#039;s on par with, say, McCain and Keating 5 (don&#039;t hear a lot about that do you?  Because nobody cares).  I don&#039;t think &quot;no one ever really cared about it&quot; is true at all.  He &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; a serious candidate when the story broke, and it led him to abandon his first (and only) real shot at the Presidency.  It&#039;s been about as thoroughly picked through as it can get, however, and though it will surely be added to any Biden profiles, that would be a helluva hard ancient history scandal to revive and do anything with.      

And who do you think the Kerry-McCain ticket talk hurts?  If Republican voters aren&#039;t laying that on the feet of McCain (and, for that matter, it never hurt Kerry any either), it&#039;s hard to see how that becomes a dealbreaker for Biden with the Dems (and, I should add, there were a lot of members of the Democratic base who &lt;i&gt;loved&lt;/i&gt; the idea of Kerry-McCain, for obvious reasons).   

Richardson looks as good on paper as Tommy Thompson did on the GOP side, but nobody is talking Tommy Thompson for McCain for the same reason nobody is talking Bill Richardson for Obama: completely lackluster candidates &lt;i&gt;except&lt;/i&gt; on paper.  For all of Richardson&#039;s bonafides (and nobody doubts them), he has more or less proven himself absolutely incapable of translating his experience to presence (which is the only way experience matters in an election context).  He is not being discussed as in serious contention for the VP slot for exactly that reason.  He has proven that he brings precisely nobody to the ticket and generates precisely no political center of gravity of his own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biden&#8217;s plagiarism problem would resurface, but it&#8217;s very hard for me to see anyone caring.  It&#8217;s on par with, say, McCain and Keating 5 (don&#8217;t hear a lot about that do you?  Because nobody cares).  I don&#8217;t think &#8220;no one ever really cared about it&#8221; is true at all.  He <i>was</i> a serious candidate when the story broke, and it led him to abandon his first (and only) real shot at the Presidency.  It&#8217;s been about as thoroughly picked through as it can get, however, and though it will surely be added to any Biden profiles, that would be a helluva hard ancient history scandal to revive and do anything with.      </p>
<p>And who do you think the Kerry-McCain ticket talk hurts?  If Republican voters aren&#8217;t laying that on the feet of McCain (and, for that matter, it never hurt Kerry any either), it&#8217;s hard to see how that becomes a dealbreaker for Biden with the Dems (and, I should add, there were a lot of members of the Democratic base who <i>loved</i> the idea of Kerry-McCain, for obvious reasons).   </p>
<p>Richardson looks as good on paper as Tommy Thompson did on the GOP side, but nobody is talking Tommy Thompson for McCain for the same reason nobody is talking Bill Richardson for Obama: completely lackluster candidates <i>except</i> on paper.  For all of Richardson&#8217;s bonafides (and nobody doubts them), he has more or less proven himself absolutely incapable of translating his experience to presence (which is the only way experience matters in an election context).  He is not being discussed as in serious contention for the VP slot for exactly that reason.  He has proven that he brings precisely nobody to the ticket and generates precisely no political center of gravity of his own.</p>
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		<title>By: KipEsquire</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/07/30/joseph-biden-for-vp/comment-page-1/#comment-12765</link>
		<dc:creator>KipEsquire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4542473/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4542473/" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: KipEsquire</title>
		<link>http://thecrossedpond.com/2008/07/30/joseph-biden-for-vp/comment-page-1/#comment-12764</link>
		<dc:creator>KipEsquire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biden&#039;s plagiarism problem would also re-surface. No one ever really cared about it before because Biden was never really a serious candidate before. But as VP it would be revived and would be a distraction -- potentialy a crippling one.

I still do not understand why Obama simply doesn&#039;t pick Richardson: foreign policy, energy, New Mexico, hispanics. What&#039;s not to love?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biden&#8217;s plagiarism problem would also re-surface. No one ever really cared about it before because Biden was never really a serious candidate before. But as VP it would be revived and would be a distraction &#8212; potentialy a crippling one.</p>
<p>I still do not understand why Obama simply doesn&#8217;t pick Richardson: foreign policy, energy, New Mexico, hispanics. What&#8217;s not to love?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, look at me!  I&#039;m on the high wire and haven&#039;t fallen yet.  Take away the net, I don&#039;t need no stinkin&#039; net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, look at me!  I&#8217;m on the high wire and haven&#8217;t fallen yet.  Take away the net, I don&#8217;t need no stinkin&#8217; net.</p>
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