Posted by Brad @ 5:04 pm on February 29th 2008

For James

If it doesn’t work, why does it persist?

Myths and rumours. There is a perception that democracy makes us weak and only “real men” know how to do this stuff. People think torture worked for the Gestapo, for example. It didn’t. What made the Gestapo so scarily efficient was its dependence on public cooperation. Informers betrayed the resistance repeatedly in Europe, and everyone knew this, but it was more convenient to say the Gestapo got the truth by beating it out of us. Public cooperation is the best way to gather information. After the failed bomb attacks in London in 2005, the British police found every one of the gang within a week. One was caught after his parents turned him in. They would not have done that if they’d thought he’d be tortured.


  1. For me?

    Comment by James — 2/29/2008 @ 5:28 pm

  2. For you.

    Comment by Brad — 2/29/2008 @ 5:33 pm

  3. What, I haven’t even tortured anyone yet today.

    Comment by James — 2/29/2008 @ 5:36 pm

  4. Torture, whether water boarding or other forms, is immoral and wrong. It should never be used, under ANY circumstances.

    Two wrongs (a criminal + torture) does not make a right.

    Comment by anon4rp — 2/29/2008 @ 5:36 pm

  5. I completely agree.

    Comment by James — 2/29/2008 @ 5:40 pm

  6. Ok, now that we have something of a consensus, does this mean we can finally do something about Brad’s music videos?

    Comment by James — 2/29/2008 @ 5:42 pm

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