Posted by Brad @ 2:39 pm on January 25th 2008

The Question of a Co-Presidency (Team Clinton America Police!)

Andrew Sullivan this morning posts some interesting thoughts on the questions raised by the Team Clinton that is starting to look set to take over the White House. Now, I’m not sure how much of a constitutional issue it actually is, as clearly being married to (or being the offspring of) a former President is not constitutionally out-of-bounds, at least not according to the letter of the document. But a good case can be made that it certainly violates the spirit of it, especially in the case of Team Clinton.

I remember, in John Derbyshire’s endorsement of Ron Paul, him wondering aloud why the wife of the Vice-President has a chief of staff, or a staff at all. But in the scenario of Hillary Clinton becoming President, there can be little doubt that Bill Clinton will become, not in message or rhetoric, but in actual policy, the most influential man in American again. Just as in his first term, when his unelected and unaccountable wife was given control of the entire United States health care system, under a Hillary presidency it seems pretty hard to imagine Bill not taking on a huge role (whether Hillary likes it or not). The question becomes, given that it’s not a situation the founding fathers anticipated (a spouse of the President who is themselves a recent former President), what kind of accountability does Bill have? Is there any kind of operating transparency he has to hold to? If we don’t have any right to place any limits on him, what right does he have to operate without limits? As Andrew says:

The problem of political dynasticism is the least of it. American politics have been riven by dynasties from the start. What America has never dealt with is this strange and corrupting arrangement whereby voters are being asked to support two-people-as-one as president. The last two weeks have shown beyond any doubt that this is indeed what is going on. By blurring the lines of accountability, by giving a former president vague but enormous powers in what amounts to an unconstitutional third term, we are sacrificing an important democratic principle and the transparency required to stymie corruption and secret deals kept from public scrutiny by the sacred bonds of matrimony.

Read his whole post, of course. But it’s an interesting—and troubling—question. Constitutionally, we’ve already reached a place where the operating legal M.O. right now is that the Vice President is a fourth branch of government unto himself that no-one can reasonably expect any accountability or transparency from—but who has enormous powers—we’re now adding a President’s family to that list as well. If that takes hold as well, we’ve created an entire cabal of extra-governmental power-wielders with the President not as the top of a very well-defined chain of command, but as team leader of a much more shadowy and fudgy cadre of co- or sub-presidents , a team largely out-of-bounds as far as restrictions or checks and balances or transparency is concerned.

Disconcerting, to say the least. I’m not sure what the solution is, formally speaking (outside of not electing Hillary Clinton or any more Bushes), but it’s something we ought to start thinking about real soon here.

One addendum: can you imagine how troubling it’s going to be were Chelsea elected President in 20 years, with both her parents still alive and former Presidents themselves? Hell, what if one of the Bush grandkids ends up becoming President in the meantime, and they get hitched before Chelsea gets elected? That these are things that aren’t ridiculous hypotheticals, but actual possibilities (well, besides the Bush-Chelsea marriage, let’s hope), is sort of staggering.

Is there such thing as a democratic monarchy?

3 Comments »

  1. I don’t quite see eye-to-eye with you as far as the Vice Presidency becoming a fourth branch of government. Such power is delegated completely at the purview of the president. There’s no inherent power of the VP except as a tie breaking vote in the senate and a few other things. Cheney’s vice presidency doesn’t have any power that can’t be removed at a the whim of another president. It’s all about the government style of the current president. If they feel that they want a strong VP, they have the power to allow it…or they can simply relegate the VP back to their historical purpose of one heartbeat away from the presidency.

    While it troubles me to see an increase in power of the executive, you have to remember that a lot of the delegation of power within that branch is up to the whim of the sitting president.

    Also, here are a few ways to think about a Hillary presidency: if she severs just one term, that will make 24 years of US history led by either a Bush or Clinton; if she serves 8 years the number jumps to 28 years of just two last names in the white house. The Economist has moaned about the same point, whereby the people of the US are untroubled by this psuedo-dynasty in the making.

    Another (very) wild card to these decades of Bush/Clinton is Jeb. He could conceivably be a factor in 2012 or 2016. It could turn into 36 years of Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton-Bush.

    I feel ill.

    Comment by Cameron — 1/25/2008 @ 3:02 pm

  2. George H. W. Bush 1988-1992
    William J. Clinton 1992-2000
    George W. Bush 2000-2008
    Hillary R. Clinton 2008-2016
    John E. “Jeb” Bush 2016-2024
    Chelsea Clinton 2024-2032
    Jenna W. Bush 2032-2040
    . . .

    Comment by anon4rp — 1/25/2008 @ 3:16 pm

  3. While it troubles me to see an increase in power of the executive, you have to remember that a lot of the delegation of power within that branch is up to the whim of the sitting president.

    Well that’s what troubles me.

    I don’t quite see eye-to-eye with the current situation regarding the Vice President either, but regardless, the precedent has been set, and not really challenged in any focused/effective way. And Hillary Clinton is set to do with the First Spouse was George W. Bush did with the Vice President.

    Comment by Brad — 1/25/2008 @ 3:27 pm

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