Libertarian Reaction to the TNR Ron Paul Expose
If you have not read The New Republic’s expose of Ron Paul’s newsletters, it’s worth your time, particularly if you are, have been, or considered supporting Ron Paul’s campaign. Allow me to free form riff on this for a bit. For the sake of this discussion, let me make some very generalized assumptions. They represent my short form model of the libertarian community and its reaction, recent past and present, to Ron Paul:
TNR’s loose classification of libertarians into two major camps, the Cato/Reason sort and the Lew Rockwell sort is a fair though generalized assessment. I understand it is a simplification, and I understand that there are other models (anarcho-caps versus minarchist, etc), but seriously, on the internet, in the blogosphere, this really does seem to be a major fault line.
We might classify libertarian and libertarian leaning individual reaction to the Ron Paul campaign as Strong Supporter, Unwilling to Support, and Grudging Support. I include myself in the last category, with reservations, mostly documented in my posts and comments here, in the areas of civil liberties, gay rights, federalism uber alles, and 14th amendment rejection, though I did swallow those pills in favor of Ron Paul’s general message. I don not regret that decision, though I am very distressed by the material in the TNR article.
The Cato/Reason camp were very likely to fall in the latter two support categories (Unwilling to Support or Grudging Support), while the Lew Rockwell types were very likely to fall in the first Strong Support category.
Some sampling of the blogosphere reaction from the Unwilling and Grudging Supporters.
Jim Babka, a Ron Paul supporter, is chagrined:
Yes, the The New Republic is an anti-libertarian rag — as anti-libertarian as they come.
Yes, there were some simple facts misreported in the original version of the story.
Yes, it appears Kirchick is a Giuliani supporter.
Yes, the Left typically calls anyone who disagrees with them racist, sexist, homophobe, etc. That’s par for the course.
Yes, the article also had the tired, old charges of guilt-by-association that, by themselves, don’t amount to much of a case.
And you know what I say?
So what? Look at what’s left! There’s a lot. It’s all too damaging.
It’s a disaster.
Please note: The Bill White charges of White Supremacist meetings with Paul at Tara Thai didn’t fly. The Don Black donation was petty news and ridiculous. Even the newsletter charges, as originally published, seemed minor — a management oversight. The guilt-by-association and “speaking in code” charges were the result of faulty logic and perhaps even wishful thinking.
I was willing to defend all of that. That was a matter of hardball politics. Charges fly around in every campaign.
And no one’s perfect.
But this is much, much worse. Does Ron Paul believe the stuff written under his name? Personally, I don’t think he does. But the statement issued by the campaign is insufficient in this case.
Is Ron Paul an absentee manager? Does he have poor staff selection/character analysis skills?
I’m chagrined by the news. I’m concerned about the long-term perspective this might leave long after this campaign is over.
Radley Balko, a Ron Paul supporter, is disappointed:
The 1990s is not “ancient history.” We were by then well past the point in American history where the kind of racism and bigotry present in those articles had any place in civil discourse. I simply can’t imagine seeing any piece of paper go out under my name that included sympathetic words for David Duke. That a newsletter with Paul’s name did just that demands an explanation from Paul. The “I’ve answered that in the past” reply isn’t sufficient. You’re running for president, now. You have a national platform. You’ve been an ambassador for libertarian ideas on Colbert, the Daily Show, Meet the Press, and Jay Leno. That you’ve provided a brief explanation for some of these passages a decade ago during a little-noticed congressional campaign doesn’t cut it. No one was paying attention then. Just about everyone is now.
I also think the Paul phenomenon ought to be separated from any personal baggage Paul may have. Yes, there are some losers who support Paul’s candidacy. Any time you’re a fringe candidate cobbling together support from those who feel disaffected and left behind by the two-party system, you’re going to end up bumping elbows with a few weirdos. But there’s nothing bigoted about the thousands of college kids, mainstream libertarians, war opponents, drug war opponents, and hundreds-long threads on sites like Digg and Reddit where enthusiasm for Paul’s candidacy is strong.
Ed Brayton, unwilling to support, is vindicated without being pleased about it:
This was one of the first things that really sent up a red flag for me about Ron Paul, his ties to the anti-14th amendment wing of neo-confederate “libertarianism” (I put that in parentheses because, frankly, I don’t think it’s libertarian at all, I think it’s anti-libertarian). I’ve tangled with these folks many times over the years on this blog and many of them, including Woods and DiLorenzo, have shown up here in the comments. I make no secret of my disdain for their views. So when I learned that Ron Paul was deeply involved with them, that was a big deal to me. Still is.
this response strains credulity to the limits. He let people write these vile things in his name for 20 years (the issue was first raised in 1996 during a campaign; his first response was that the quotes were “out of context” and then, in 2001, he said that he didn’t really write them) and didn’t put a stop to it? He never bothered to even read what they wrote in his name? Sorry, that’s laughably ridiculous.
It’s even more ridiculous when you consider that he is closely associated with a wide range of groups with a long history of taking the very positions he says he condemns now. And that he was pandering with his newsletter to the very people who agree with such arguments. Even if he didn’t write it, he absolutely bears responsibility for it.
I don’t write this with glee, I write this with disappointment. I’m disappointed because all of this makes Ron Paul the wrong messenger for what is often precisely the right message. And I hope that message does not get lost.
Thoreau, unwilling to support:
If he didn’t do those things at the time, if he didn’t see those statements in his name as a problem in need of correction, then it raises a lot of questions. I really don’t think he’s a bigot. The man is quite open about all sorts of opinions that are out of the mainstream. If he were a bigot he’d let it out. On the other hand, a failure to correct things done in his name raises questions about his sincerity, and makes me wonder whether he’s a better actor than I’ve given him credit for.
So what is to be done? Whither goest libertarianism? In comments to Rojas’ Night of Suck post, several of our attentive readers guessed the movement’s future, ranging from “it’s over” to “the core message resonated!” The proposals range from “jettison the fringe” to “embrace the paleo conservatives.” My take:
The next libertarian torchbearer needs to come from the Cato/Reason minarchist camp. He needs to be free of the extraordinary baggage created by long-term association with, support from, and influence by the neo-confederate Southern nationalists. He needs to respect the 14th amendment and have a more solid civil liberties record. Consider: Despite his libertarian credibility, Ron Paul could not carry the endorsement of many pundit class libertarians. It was more than libertarian purity testing; it was an unwillingness to embrace a candidate carrying the whiff of repugnant bigotry and unadulterated support for state power in the guise of libertarianism. Ron Paul could not even garner the support of many pundit or blog heavy libertarians, and many who did support him did so with expressed reluctance. The rejection and reservations of these libertarians served notice to many potential supporter that there were problems, and provided ammunition for his ready critics.
Imagine the situation altered. All other things being equal in terms of candidate experience, foreign policy positions, and major party affiliation, had the candidate been a Radley Balko type, he would have had the support of all the Cato/Reason crowd. My question to you: would our candidate have the Lew Rockwell crowd? I suspect so. They would have held their noses as many libertarians did with Ron Paul. Even if the hard core anarcho-capitalists, Southern nationalists, and fringe groups had rejected our hypothetical candidate in numbers and vitriol like we saw with Ron Paul, they would not have given our candidate’s non-libertarian observers such easy ammunition. Indeed, their departure from the camp might have helped to mainstream our candidate’s acceptability and support.
Not being a Libertarian but one of those dreaded paleo conservatives, a Republican who has actually run for a political office and who has supported Paul financially, politically and rhetorically, my main question for you and the other big L libertarians is: Don’t you folks run a candidate for President every 4 years?
Comment by Coogan — 1/9/2008 @ 10:48 pm
Which one of us is a Big L libertarian? Not me. Was that rhetorical? Or simply aimed at all readers/commenters?
Comment by Jack — 1/9/2008 @ 11:01 pm
I consider myself a minarchist (of the Anarchy, State, and Utopia type… hopefully that’s still considered a somewhat valid text that hasn’t been thoroughly debunked!)
The main problem with the minarchist camp, is that, in my opinion, almost no one agrees with us. I don’t really know what to do about it or how to change it. I talk to my friends and coworkers about these issues and try to convince them of the glories of libertarianism (if they seem at all interested), but I don’t really foresee the libertarian movement going anywhere. It’s simply too radical and almost all people prefer something close to the status quo. (Not unreasonably, perhaps.)
I think libertarianism requires both more knowledge of philosophy and economics than most people have or desire to have.
I think that a system of voting will never produce anything resembling libertarianism because the feedback mechanisms are so weak relative to the feedback provided by “the market.” That is, not only do people not understand the issues on which they are voting, they rationally don’t understand the issues on which they are voting.
I hate to be pessimistic, since it is always unpleasant to listen to somebody moan and complain without offering any solutions, but I just don’t know what to do, and I don’t see any reason for optimism.
The only silver lining, is that life really isn’t that bad.
Comment by Redland Jack — 1/9/2008 @ 11:09 pm
Jack:
Sorry, I thought you at least had Big L tendencies in that you seem to want a libertarian purist for your candidate.
The point I was trying to make is that adding the lew rockwell group to the Balko group would give you an approximation of the current Big L party, would it not? If not, why don’t these groups combine to take over the Big L party and nominate a candidate that suits them? It’s a pretty small group so it wouldn’t be hard to do so, would it? They could have a candidate filling all specifications completelhy untainted by any vestige of consevativism.
Paul’s biggest problem, contrary to much of the analysis I see here, is that he was too much of a libertarian ideologue in his advertising and campaigning to do well in a Republican primary. He neglected the sensibilities of that half of his coalition. I happen to support much of his libertarian views but rank and file members of the party are not susceptible to esoteric discussions of Ludwig Von Mises’ economic theory or radical libertarian positions such as his opposition to the state having any role in marriage. For instance, if he had said that he was against the Feds having any role, he would have been on solid old Right conservative ground. Unfortunately, he had to go for the whole libertarian enchilada–No state involvement in marriage at all.
Comment by Coogan — 1/9/2008 @ 11:42 pm
I’ve been a big-L. I’m not quite doctrainaire enough for them, but I still have reasonably strong ties within the party.
Coogan: the question you ask is a reasonable one, and the answer, sadly, is that your scenario is simply impossible due to internal party dynamics. Plenty of big-Ls don’t consider Radley Balko or Lew Rockwell to be real Libertarians. A shocking percentage thereof consider Balko, Rockwell, and their ilk to be paid agents of a neocon conspiracy bent upon the infiltration and destruction of the party. I shit thee not.
Probably these people COULD take over the LP, with a concerted effort, but the rather feeble status of the party in terms of ballot access and finances suggests that it probably isn’t worth the trouble.
Comment by Rojas — 1/9/2008 @ 11:49 pm
On the larger question, I think Jack is quite correct. I hasten to add, though, that I will never, ever be ashamed to have supported Ron Paul. I wish he had been a better steward of his own movement, for all the reasons Jack outlined. But given the times he lived in, and the pressures he faced: it were a fearsome man, Ron Paul.
Comment by Rojas — 1/9/2008 @ 11:52 pm
I do not at all agree about that characterization. The next torchbearer could be for example Murray Sabrin, who had run for offices in New Jersey as GOP and LP candidate, and is from the LRC crowd, but would not have such baggage from the past as Paul had.
Comment by scineram — 1/10/2008 @ 5:21 am
Coogan,
Judging from your interpretation of my post, clearly I have not stated my case well. I don’t want a Libertarian Purist. I am perfectly happy with a realistic libertarian leaning candidate.
- I just want one that falls more on the Cato side than the Lew Rockwell side of that divide, and a whole lot of people would consider the LR side to be more radical or pure.
- I want the guy to not have an extensive history with the neo-confederates and fringe elements, especially with years worth of newsletters filled with bigoted vitriol and conspiracy theory, much of which was probably written by a Lew Rockwell-style lib.
- I want him to be more supportive of broad brush civil liberties, and some of these stances may be unpopular with some social conservatives.
- Given all that, I think he would loose some LR style libs, and he would loose the neoconfederates and white nationalists. Those losses would be in small enough numbers, and would actually serve to strengthen his maintsteam acceptability, not weaken it.
- Conversely, taking this track would gain him all those Cato/Reason style libs that were unwilling to support Ron Paul, and I think the Cato crowd has more positive media influence and exposure with which to sell a candidate.
- I admit that such tactics might loose him social conservative voters that liked RP’s social conservitive stance on gays and abortion.
- I believe it would gain him supporters that loved his stance on the war, torture, habeus corpus, but could not go with him because of his inconsistant civil liberties stance.
So, I want a small government civil libertarian. Doesn’t have to be pure.
Comment by Jack — 1/10/2008 @ 11:50 am
Jack:
I appreciate your detailed reply. I don’t know if such a candidate as you describe ever will exist outside the Libertarian Party itself. That Party could be taken over by the Cato group as they appear to be the most financially and socially well placed as you indicate above. They could then prove or disprove your hypothesis.
I think the Rockwell side, whose blog I read often, is aware of the popular weakness an alignment such as you describe would represent. Furthermore, they recognize some overlap of their ideas with Old Right conservatives. As do I. As to who the white nationalist support, I could care less.
Comment by Coogan — 1/10/2008 @ 11:15 pm